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The average U.S. American consumes 335.9 million BTUs per year, the world per person average is 72.4 million BTUs. 48.2% of US electricity comes from coal. Only 3.7% comes from solar, wind, and geothermal. The average U.S. American uses 441 gallons of gas for their car each year... and more...
DECT Phone Safety
 
Radiation from cell phones has been getting a lot of press of late but according to the BioInitiative Report cordless phones look to be just as deadly as cell phones when it comes to brain tumors and acoustic neuromas. DECT technology originated in Europe and has since been widely introduced throughout the world. Today more than 800 million DECT systems are in use. The pulsed frequencies of the radiation used in DECT technology are in the microwave band. The ICNIRP is responsible for monitoring and creating guidelines for radiation technologies. The ICNIRP guidelines focus exclusively on high frequency radiation and thermal activity. But many scientists have been pointing out that pulsed microwaves at low frequencies are also cause for alarm.
BP Oil Spill
 
It is somewhat ironic that an extensive environmental study in the Gulf carried out by the Minerals Management Service, that counted and noted habitat preferences of cetaceans (marine mammals with a blowhole for breathing- including whales, porpoises and dolphins) encountered two species (melon-headed whales and fraser's dolphins) that were rarely seen in the area before... During the study the ship heard and saw numerous sperm whales in the vicinity of the Deepwater Horizon. There is a native population of about 1400 sperm whales that live in the Gulf of Mexico year round. And scientists say if we lose just a few of them due to this spill, it could dangerously tip their numbers into the negative. See many more photos here- of native cetaceans and the Gulf dilemma....
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A new study out of the UK, published by the Royal Society, shows that flowers are blooming 2 to 12 days earlier than they did 25 years ago. The study used 400,000 records of first blooms, and looked at over 400 species of flowers. The research showed this pattern of early blooming to be the first in recorded history. The study also showed that a 1 degree Celsius change, over a short two year period, resulted in an earlier flowering time of five days. An earlier British study "Rapid Changes in Flowering Time in British Plants" (Fitter, 2002) showed that 385 plant species bloomed 4 and a half days earlier during the 1990s than the 4 decades prior. And yet another study out of the UK, by the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology found that in 2005, species were breeding on average 11.7 days earlier than in 1976. In the U.S....
 
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Koch Brothers' Products
  -- We're Surrounded.


If you have been following news about the Koch brothers, you might be curious as to which products they manufacture.

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Georgia-Pacific also distributes paper towels, napkins and soap dispensing systems used in commerical settings. Some GP commercial toilet paper brands: Envision, Coronet®, SCA, Tork and Fort James. GP produces Pacific Garden liquid soaps...


 
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Georgia-Pacific produces ink and office paper under the labels: Advantage, GP (including GP Harmon recycled papers), ImagePlus and the Spectrum® family of office paper products.




Wood Products:


Georgia-Pacific is the largest manufacturer of plywood in the U.S..

Including Plytanium Plywood®, DryPly® plywood, Ply-Bead®.

Georgia-Pacific is one of the country's largest suppliers of corrugated boxes and containers.

Various, numerous wood products, dimensional lumber and building materials:

Blue Ribbon, Clutter Cutter, DensArmor Plus, DensDeck, DensGlass, DensShield® gypsum board, DryPly, Fireguard®, Grant Forest OSB Board, GP Lam, Hushboard, Nautilus, Ply-Bead, Plytanium, Southern Gold, Sta-Strait, Thermostat, ToughRock and Wood I Beam.



Textiles and Plastics
via Invista Products:

 

  • Stainmaster
  • Dacron
  • Lycra
  • CoolMax
  • SolarMax
  • Polarguard 
  • Thermolite
  • Antron
    Comforel fiberfill
  • DBE® dibasic esters
    Tactel
    Tactesse Carpet Fibers
  • Terathane
  • ADI-Pure®
  • Polyshield®
  • Polyclear®
  • Oxyclear™
  • Performa®
    Cordura fabric
    Supplex® Fabric
    Somerelle® Bedding

     

Invista produces a large selection of products under this business, including polyethylene terephthalate (PET) polymers for carbonated soft drink, water, beer, juice, food and custom container applications. Production also includes polyester intermediate feedstocks, film products, fibers, and specialty polymers for a variety of applications, inlcuding PBT-based engineering polymer.




Chemicals, Coal & Oil:

Through its subsidiaries Koch operates refineries in Alaska, Minnesota and Texas, with a combined crude oil processing capacity of more than 800,000 barrels per day. Koch Industries owns or operates about 4,000 miles of pipelines that transport crude oil, refined petroleum products, natural gas liquids and chemicals. Koch Minerals and its affiliates are among the world’s largest dry-bulk commodity handlers, marketing and trading more than 40 million tons of coal, coke, cement and other related products annually. Flint Hills Resources produces about 9 billion pounds of building-block chemicals per year. Koch is a leading producer of paving and roofing asphalt. www.kochind.com

Koch Industries Produces:


    * Gasoline
    * Diesel
    * Jet fuel
    * Naphtha
    * Asphalt
    * Benzene
    * Toluene
    * Metaxylene
    * Paraxylene
    * Orthoxylene
    * Cumene
    * Cycohexane
    * Heavy reformate
    * Pseudocumene
    * Sure Sol ® 100
    * Sure Sol ® 150
    * Purified Isophthalic Acid
    * Maleic Anhydride
    * Trimellitic Anhydride
    * Ethylene
    * Chemical Grade Propylene
    * Polypropylene
    * Polyethylene



"In Flint Hills Resources manufacturing plants, various hydrocarbon products are the basic feedstocks. At the refineries, the main feedstock is crude oil. The refineries produce a wide range of transportation fuels for motorists, truckers and the airline industry. In the olefins plants, the company processes natural gas liquids into ethylene and propylene. In the polymers plants, those two products are processed into various forms of olypropylene, which are key ingredients in products such as consumer and healthcare products, packaging and other plastic products. In the aromatics plant, products produced during the crude oil refining process become xylenes, cumenes and other light products. Those products are the building blocks for many other chemicals and plastics."* www.fhrstage.fhr.com

Koch Carbon, LLC and its affiliates globally trade and transport petroleum coke, coal, cement, pulp and paper, sulfur and other related commodities through a network of bulk import/export terminals in the United States and Europe. The C. Reiss Coal Company is a leading supplier of coal and related products typically used in industrial applications or to generate electricity.

Koch Exploration Company, LLC and its affiliates acquire, develop and trade petroleum and natural gas properties in the United States, Canada and Brazil.




Pipelines:

Koch Pipeline Company, L.P. and its affiliates own or operate about 4,000 miles of pipelines that transport crude oil, refined petroleum products, natural gas liquids and chemicals.

Koch Alaska Pipeline Company, LLC owns an approximate 3 percent interest in the Trans Alaska Pipeline System. Another Koch company has a 28 percent interest in Colonial Pipeline Company, owner and operator of the world’s largest-volume refined products pipeline.




Fertilizer:

Koch Fertilizer, LLC and its affiliates;  have the capability to manufacture, market and distribute more than 10 million tons of nitrogen fertilizer products annually. They distribute to dealers, so their product has many a label. "Fertilizer today is an intensely industrial business more akin to oil refining or chemical production."* www.kochind.com




Equipment:

Koch-Glitsch, LP and its affiliates are global leaders in the design, manufacture and installation of mass transfer and mist elimination equipment. The company’s products are found in refineries and chemical plants worldwide.

Koch Membrane Systems, Inc. develops and manufactures membrane separation systems for a variety of applications worldwide, including membranes for microfiltration, ultrafiltration, nanofiltration and reverse osmosis.

John Zink Company, LLC and its affiliates are global leaders in ultra-low emission process burners, boiler burners, duct burners, flares and thermal oxidizers. The companies are also global suppliers of flare gas/vapor recovery and vapor combustor systems.




Cattle:

Koch Agriculture Company, operates three ranches with a total of 15,000 head of cattle in Kansas, Montana, and Texas. "Matador Ranch in Texas offers a number of hunting packages that include first-class accommodations. Everything is provided to ensure an enjoyable experience." www.kochind.com




Services:

Koch Supply & Trading companies around the world trade and provide risk management services in crude oil; refined petroleum products; natural gas and gas liquids; gas, power and emissions;  industrial metals; and other commodities and financial instruments.

Optimized Process Designs, Inc. provides consulting, engineering, design, procurement, fabrication and construction services for the natural gas and gas processing industries worldwide. OPD has been the general contractor on some of the largest natural gas plants built in the U.S.

Koch Knight LLC and its affiliates are leaders in acid proof solutions. The companies offer construction, engineering and services through a global network of manufacturing and outsourcing facilities. Their products, made from state-of-the-art ceramics and plastic materials, are available worldwide.

IPT provides the resources and know how to deliver world-scale technology for licensing to a growing portfolio of technologies in the polyester, polyurethane and nylon value chains.




European brands:


  • Colhogar®
  • Delica®
  • Demak'Up®
  • Inversoft®
  • Kitten Soft®
  • Lotus®
  • Moltonel®
  • Nouvelle®
  • Okay
  • Tenderly® 
  • Tutto®



Source =  www.kochind.com

Logos property of Koch Industries www.worldofkoch.com



 

Georgia-Pacific Products
One more time:


  • Angel Soft®
  • Brawny®
    Coronet®
  • Dixie®
  • Mardi Gras®
    MD Bathroom Tissue
  • Quilted Northern®
  • Soft ‘n Gentle®
  • Sparkle®
    Vanity Fair®
  • Zee®





Pollution:


University of Massachusetts at Amherst’s Political Economy Research Institute, shows Koch Industries as one of the nation’s top 10 polluters/emitters. See detailed emissions breakdowns - www.peri.umass.edu/toxic_index




A Sampling of Environmental Charges Against Koch:


September 2000, a federal grand jury in Corpus Christi, Texas returned a 97-count indictment against Koch Industries Inc., Koch Petroleum Group for violating federal clean air and hazardous waste laws, due to the release of at least 91 metric tons of uncontrolled, untreated carcinogenic benzene. In April 2001, the company reached a $20 million settlement in exchange for admitting to covering up environmental violations at its refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas. www.justice.gov


March 2000, Koch petroleum which operates a refinery in Rosemount, Minn., was sentenced to pay a $6 million criminal fine and pay an additional $2 million in remediation costs. This is the largest federal environmental fine ever paid in Minnesota. Koch admitted that it negligently discharged 200,000 - 600,000 gallons of aviation fuel into a wetland and an adjoining waterway. In addition, their way of recovering the fuel (a year and a half later) destroyed a portion of the surrounding ecosystem and wildlife habitat. In a separate offense, Koch dumped a million gallons of wastewater with high ammonia content on the ground between November 1996 and March 1997 and also increased its flow of wastewater into the Mississippi River on weekends when no one monitored discharges. These actions allowed Koch to circumvent the weekly monitoring and reporting requirements of its wastewater discharge permit. The case was investigated by EPA's Criminal Investigation Division, the FBI and the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency and was prosecuted by the U. S. Attorney's Office for the District of Minnesota. www.ehso.com

Koch's Sterling butane pipeline had a leak in Lively, Texas, on August 24, 1996. Two teenagers on the way to report the leak drove into the unseen butane cloud, and were killed when the gas exploded and burned. The National Transportation Safety Board concluded that severe external pipeline corrosion was the cause of the failure. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries

In 1999
, a federal jury found that Koch Industries had stolen oil from government and American Indian lands and had lied about its purchases more than 24,000 times. In May 2001, Koch Industries paid $25 million to the federal government to settle the federal lawsuit that found the company had improperly taken more oil than it had paid for from federal and Indian land. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries

In January 2000, Koch Pipeline, agreed to a $35 million settlement with the U.S. Justice Department and the State of Texas as fines for the firm's three hundred oil spills (300 million gallons) in Texas and five other states going back to 1990. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries

In 2006, Flint Hill Resources was fined nearly $16,000 by the EPA for 10 separate violations of the Clean Air Act at its Alaska oil refinery facilities, and required to spend another $60,000 on safety equipment needed to help prevent future violations. yosemite.epa.gov

Clip from new Koch Brother's movie: www.youtube.com



Climate Change Denial:



A March 2010 Greenpeace report shows that Koch Industry foundations have contributed (2005-2008) nearly $25 million to organizations that oppose clean energy and climate policy. That does not include oil and gas lobbying of $37.9 million. For more info on Koch Industries' funding of Climate Denial Groups -- See GreenPeace's report "Koch Industries Funding the Climate Denial Machine" www.greenpeace.org

In the August, 2010 New York Magazine article 'Covert Operations,' oil tycoon David Koch was quoted as saying, global warming will be a good thing for the planet and will help "support enormously more people because a far greater land area will be available to produce food." www.newyorker.com



Revenue:


Koch Industries currently brings in $100 billion in revenue annually.
Each brother is personally worth $21.5 billion. Together 43 billion.*
Koch Industries spent a total of $37.9 million on oil and gas lobbying
from January 2006 to December 2009. www.sourcewatch.org
*www.thinkprogress.org



Voting:


Since the Citizen's United decision, corporations can now attempt to influence their employees' votes. The Koch Brothers jumped on that band wagon right away and mailed out lists of Koch supported candidates to their 50,000 employees during the last election. See info and a copy of a recommended election packet at www.thenation.com


University Affairs:

"Billionaire's role in hiring decisions at Florida State University raises questions" They give as long as they can pick the teachers. www.tampabay.com

Not Just Florida State...Utah, West Virginia, etc... www.insidehighered.com

The Mercatus Center is a conservative Think Tank at George Mason University’s Arlington campus. It is a university-based research center that makes its research findings available to the media and public policy makers. According to GreenPeace the Mercatus Center has received over 10 million dollars worth of funding from the Koch Brothers. Mercatus also fights environmental regulation, opposes clean energy legislation and lobbys to prevent curbs on industrial pollution. www.greenpeace.org  mercatus.org





 

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Greg Jackson
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Love thyself
Reply #213 on : Sat July 09, 2011, 08:10:29
Do not sleep with the enemy. These bastards are out to destroy the middle class, and create a permanent underclass. They don't think anyone but the rich need education, so why bother educating people who they want to do minimal labor for minimal wages. They are funding the de-dreaming of the American Dream. Don't buy from the Walmarts, and the Koch's who are trying to destroy middle America.
Anonymous
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Re: Koch Brothers Products and Pollution
Reply #212 on : Sun July 03, 2011, 19:06:49
And they may also benefit from this Keystone XL pipeline if it is approved! READ,
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/10/idUS292515702420110210 and
http://www.nrdc.org/land/files/TarSandsPipeline4pgr.pdf
Doug
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THe rich few are becomming the czars of America
Reply #211 on : Fri July 01, 2011, 14:49:16
@ Pat, Dude, you are talking about jobs they create? What about the unions they want to smash? Sure they want you working, working for them under damn near slave wages. Look at walmart and what it has done. This country is corporate America and became a Big Corporate America under the Bush Administration! Republicans are CRAP and Democrats are chickens! So the poor will get poorer, the rich get richer and we will have another revolutionary war but with few corporation owners... did anyone NOT see the Jericho series?
Harriet P
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Pollution is a serious offence
Reply #210 on : Tue June 28, 2011, 14:29:26
Why don't you Conservatives get it - we have one planet, we need to look after her. The Koch brothers are among the worst polluters in the world. Polluting the environment our grandchildren will inherit is certainly not noble. Money will not mean much in the future if the planet is inhospitable. Hard working people who rape the planet for selfish means will be thought of as criminals by our grandchildren.
CatTX
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Love these products.
Reply #209 on : Mon June 27, 2011, 13:28:23
@Randy Daniels

You are right on.
It is funny how the Libs love to yell and scream unless it has to do with their peeps.
Continue buying these products..
Hard working people will always be reconized.
Leonard Staley
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Re: Koch Brothers Products and Pollution
Reply #208 on : Mon June 27, 2011, 12:52:40
HERE IS THE LIST OF PRODUCTS THAT THE KOCH BROTHERS MANUFACTURE1 DO AMERICA A FAVOR AND DON'T BUY THESE PRODUCTS! PLEASE!!
Fred
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Capitalism is fine, deregulation not...
Reply #207 on : Sun June 26, 2011, 13:11:52
Liberals/Democrats do not feel capitalism is wrong. What they feel is wrong is that in the past three decades, deregulation has allowed a 'very' small percentage of the population to become grossly wealthy; at the expense of our planet and at the expense of the rest of the population.
Pat
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Koch Bros
Reply #206 on : Fri June 24, 2011, 18:32:13
Gees, after reading these comments one might think Koch industries do not have any employees, pay taxes, or are American citizens. Capitalism creates jobs - jobs you fools- jobs equal paychecks which equal purchase power without dependence on government. Long live the Koch brothers and every one of their companies. I love capitalism, America, and the freedom to decide by own future. I for one do not want to be dependent on government, for those of you who do I understand Greece is looking for a few good slaves to the government.
manton
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Re: Koch Brothers Products and Pollution
Reply #205 on : Fri June 24, 2011, 08:18:02
It is unbelievable how many idiots out there defend these scum. Wake up morons Corporations like these murderers are killing our constitution and lining the pockets of every Politician they can. Boycott everything these pigs make.
Anonymous
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Re: Koch Brothers Products and Pollution
Reply #204 on : Wed June 22, 2011, 14:26:18
I can't give up angel soft and stop wiping my ass on the Koch brothers!
Jack
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Never surrender the boycott
Reply #203 on : Wed June 22, 2011, 11:56:07
Don't listen to the fools telling you that boycotting these reactionary bastards has no effect, as they are LYING. Every dollar is accounted for in corporations, up or down trends are taken very seriously, and beyond that, investors are known to pull out money from companies on the drop of a hat regarding daily news going one way or the other. Boycott everything these bastards are part of making, and write letters to companies who support their products, letting them know you wont be buying from them either. Let every friend and contact of yours know, and keep this up as often as it takes to make people remember.
Randy Daniels
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Koch Brothers
Reply #202 on : Mon June 20, 2011, 22:45:06
Why is it never OK for a rich conservative business man/woman to support conservative causes and organizations, when it is apparently fine for liberals billionaires to support their own views by dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into far left extremist positions?

Point in case: Mr. George Sorros. A self avowed communist and dictator builder. He has given almost all the funds to Greenpeace, the Global Warming (now change) groups, not to mention groups intent on over throwing the US Government.

I would challenge the writer of this article to put just a tad of info about both sides into the articles.

I believe history will show the Koch family to be patriots and honorable men and women. I also believe history will show that the lowest point of this nation has been the past 4 years.

As for the poster who mentioned that the Constitution does not dictate the financial form of government of this nation, it DOES NOT "give" the governmennt powers, it limits the powers and authority of the central government. Read the Constitution for yourself. My guess is that less than 200,000 Americans have taken the time to actually read the Constitution and many fewer the Federalist Papers.
Lela Aldrich
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Just don't buy
Reply #201 on : Mon June 20, 2011, 02:01:49
I have quit buying the GP products listed. I still use paper products, though not as many, but I never ever buy the GP products. I keep searching this list, so I can opt out of things owned by Koch Brothers.
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http://www.cheapsolarpanelsforsale.com/
Reply #200 on : Sun June 19, 2011, 23:05:31
They are not very environmentally concious, but we are the ones who buy their products. The only way to get them to change is to stop buying their stuff.
URAN@55HOLE
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Move to North Korea You Nitwits
Reply #199 on : Thu June 16, 2011, 17:02:39
The U.S. economic system is free market capitalism nitwits. Will you people please get out of my country.
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FAT ASSES
Reply #198 on : Wed June 08, 2011, 21:52:07
They look like clowns from a circus to me!
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OLD FARTS
Reply #197 on : Wed June 08, 2011, 21:48:53
May God give them heart attacks!
Dori Ullman
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Koch Brothers Total Disregard For Humanity
Reply #196 on : Sun May 29, 2011, 18:23:59
Obviously the greed of the Koch Brothers has no limits. They don't care how much harm their industries' practices do to the environment we have to live in. They don't give a damn as long as their money keeps flowing in fo they can influence legislation and the media with their lies.

A boycott of their products is almost impossible because they own so much. But if they were prosecuted for the many gross illegalities they commit each and every day, something might bring them to stop that conduct. Are their any moral and courageous entities that could take on such a task and see that they're accountable for the damage they are doing? I wonder.
Anonymous
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Re: Koch Brothers Products and Pollution
Reply #195 on : Sat May 28, 2011, 23:43:55
I find it funny that people still think boycotting their products actually dents their wallets. This is America, we are a capitalist society where those who have more money have more freedom. Our politicians are actively trying to further separate the class difference by tricking the poor and/or ignorant masses (read: tea party movement) to believe that the conservatives are protecting their 'freedoms' when they vote to cut soc. Security, education, medicare, and any other SOCIAL service we have. It's an instilled 'got mine, f*** you' attitude. An attitude that the majority of this selfish country believes where if you know someone (like yourself or the other 95% of the country that makes less than a fortune a year) can't afford health care, the 'patriotic' thing to do is to tell them they should have tried harder and 'nought wipth mhai tacksxz dollires' them til they die from whatever illed them before getting patrioted.

Open your eyes, we're in a recession, yet prices keep rising, wages continue to stagnate. Unemployment is high, and corporations are seeing record profits. Our capitalist nation has failed, we.are no longer free we are slaves to the corporations with dollar-bill-ball-and-chain around us and our leaders. The only key to our shackles is moving away from this terrible attitude and holding corporations responsible for every crime they commit and that the american people have the freedom to be an individual but have the means to success only by working their fellow american.
S. Koch -nonaffiliated
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Re: Koch Brothers Products and Pollution
Reply #194 on : Fri May 27, 2011, 08:11:41
I still say the real, inhuman crimes are with your politicians, and they are from our citizenry. That is an undeniable indication of where America's morals lie. When a politician does not do the will of the people, the people should not have to wait for the next election. A referendum should be taken, and depending on that outcome, it would be determined whether the person should be bodily ripped from his office, imprisoned, or executed in a public square while it is televised and narrated as to why. This system would only require it being done about 3 times at the most until the scumbags realize that it is a reality. This would be a deterrent then to the fecal matter of the world trying for office. There would be no buying of politicians and everything would fall in line. Clean ways of doing things would be found. Vote me in and all things would be done by referendum, but be cautious, very cautious. If I detect an overwhelming immorality, I will defeat it and have my army ready to cancel you out.
erik m
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success
Reply #193 on : Thu May 26, 2011, 14:38:37
success economically, for sure.

Success at the expense of our precisious irreplacable ecology (in so many ways)

Success in political corruption and tax cheating.

Success in getting a record number of people to hate them because of their appalling behaviour. What a disgrace.

There is more to life than money, even in America. If you don't believe that, then you've been corrupted. Get help.

Boycott ? At the very least. The owe big time.
TJ
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Paul
Reply #192 on : Wed May 25, 2011, 21:32:24
Paul-Go get the prize. Whoever has the most toys at the end wins.
Paul
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Thanks!
Reply #191 on : Wed May 25, 2011, 12:46:24
The Koch brothers are heroes. I personally will buy more of these products. Life is a great competition. Those who 'spread the wealth' are the losers of the game. They simply want to justify stealing what they were too lazy to earn.
don bevis
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Koch Bros.
Reply #190 on : Fri May 20, 2011, 11:08:44
I love these guys. They may save our country.
LISA PRICE
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will no longer purchase any koch prod.
Reply #189 on : Fri May 20, 2011, 08:50:05
Thank you for having this and letting people know abouth this. I will no longer purchase any of these products and will scream from the mountain side to everyone I know to do the same. We made them billioniers and we the simple people can take it away.
Justin Cider
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The Koch brothers have no shame
Reply #188 on : Wed May 18, 2011, 09:40:05
The richest 0.0001% leveraging their wealth to buy grossly disproportionate amounts political influence is not only done completely in the open but now approved of by the peasant-class now. It's a sad day, their brainwashing is now complete.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/billionaires-role-in-hiring-decisions-at-florida-state-university-raises/1168680
Chickenman
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Hmmm
Reply #187 on : Tue May 17, 2011, 19:22:23
Wow! They own all those companies? They must be providing quite a few jobs. Good for them for helping keep the economy going.
Blossom
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Koch Brothers
Reply #186 on : Sun May 15, 2011, 18:30:40
Products to boycott
counter point
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Constitution chooses no economic system
Reply #185 on : Fri May 13, 2011, 09:06:04
Contrary to Conservative belief, the US Constitution does not state an economic system or preference. It simply states responsibilities of various branches of government, and in ammendments assures rights of individuals. Now where does it pick a religion nor does it claim capitalism as it's ecomonic system. It does state that it will ensure an army for protection, and seek to promote the "General Welfare" of the people. So, the founding fathers were smart as they tried to put control of what happens in the hands of the people. Unfortunately, the basis of power has swung to the Golden Rule, Those With the Gold, Rule. Those that follow them are their dogs.
Tom
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Haven't they been happy here?
Reply #184 on : Thu May 12, 2011, 18:12:29
Tell me why do the Koch Brothers want to change the political system here in America? They have amassed a fortune under this political system. They have also been granted free reign to pollute our planet. Their father spent time working in Russia and came back here anti-communist. Their father's anti-anti sentiment is being blown out of proportion by his two sons. There is no threat of communism in this country.
Tug
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I Love America
Reply #183 on : Thu May 12, 2011, 13:32:57
I am very glad that our founding fathers were far more knowledgeable than most people posting on this board. If that weren't the case we'd have been established as a pure socialist state right from the beginning instead of the slow transformation we have been heading towards.

We are a free enterprise market with a representative republic form of government by design. It has laid the foundation for us to be the prosperous nation that we are. Those that wish for radical redistribution of wealth do not understand basic economics and the inevitable outcome of such measures. If you really think you'd prefer a socialism or communism style of government, then the great U.S.A. is not your best choice of homes.
Pancho
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Koch's contempt for working people
Reply #182 on : Thu May 12, 2011, 10:44:25
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned some of the more insidious things David H. and Charles de Ganahl Koch have done.

They, especially through media buys and organizing via Americans for Prosperity and the Tea Party and various other front groups, and directly from their own political contributions, are winning a war on working people.

They don't want the poor or working class to vote. That's what's behind their "voter I.D." laws, for instance. The Kochs are basically anti-Democratic, and they've been enabled by the Five Stooges on the Supreme Court. They are particularly close to Scalia and Thomas.

Pro-privatization, they are determined to destroy public employee unions in particular because in their delusions they believe they can save on the little taxes they pay by wrecking public schools, replacing correctional officers with fast-food worker "guards," etc. They don't want to compete against even modest union funding of candidates, so they get "paycheck deception," bars to collective bargaining, pension raiding and similar legislation passed.

They are major supporters of the American Legislation Exchange Council which produces floods of draconian criminal justice and anti-regulation legislation. ALEC (with the Corrections Corporation of America and Nativists like racist-for-hire Kris Kobach) were at the core of SB 1070 in Arizona, the "Breathing while Brown," "Show me your papers," law.

By supporting and electing the radical right wingers who have only the faintest of libertarian ideals, but who are unswervingly opposed to fair taxes, they are supporting the womb police, the medical marijuana police, the homophobic and theocratic loons who have been elected in increasing numbers.

Although they are nominally libertarians, they support the private prison industry which lobbies for the drug war and other wars on minorities to fill their gulags. They support public relations outfits mislabeled as "think tanks" and "research" organizations, including in universities and colleges.

David has been a major supporter of cancer research (he has it) and evolution science, but he doesn't want poor people to get health care supported in part by the state, and he has installed anti-evolutionists on school boards because part of their agenda is to defund public school through vouchers for the wealthy and charter schools for the middle class.

I read somewhere that none of those new congressional representatives elected last year believes in global warming. A great many believe in "The Rapture" or that they'll go to "heaven," but they don't believe in evolution.

Last year they bought and paid for a score of governors. Everyone knows about Scott Walker, some posters here know about Rick Scott, but we should all be familiar with other newer Koch gubernatorial subsidiaries such as John Kasich (OH), Sean Parnell (AK), Paul LePage (ME), Tom Corbett (PA) and Rick Snyder (MI), who joined earlier Koch hacks such as Jan Brewer (AZ), Piyush Jindal (LA), Mitch Daniels and Butch Otter (ID).

They also hire public relations stooges to post on sites such as this one, trolls-for-hire, to defend their odious reputation.
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Re: Koch Brothers Products and Pollution
Reply #181 on : Thu May 05, 2011, 14:36:03
What sort of parents did you have? Would they be proud of you now?
Floridainmyrearviewmirror
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KOCH Suckers
Reply #180 on : Fri April 29, 2011, 19:29:52
The one thing people are not getting about the super rich is...deductions.
The average rich person pays less than half the stated tax that I've read about on posts here. Take the criminal Gov. of Florida Tricky Dick Scott. In 08 or 09 he made $16 Million yet after deductions he only paid 16% tax. It all comes down to deductions. You can charge the super rich 91% tax rate but if after deductions they only pay 16% tax then whats the use?
The Koch bro's are the lowest life form on the planet. Anyone that would destroy the environment for a buck should be put down like a rabid animal...It's as simple as that.
I don't care about their wealth, I care about their destruction of the environment. It's sad that Americans allow this to happen day in and day out. Band together folks, there is more of us than there is of them...even with their bought and paid for mercenary army.
Lela Aldrich
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don't buy products by Koch Bros
Reply #179 on : Fri April 29, 2011, 11:04:57
To the best of my ability, I will not buy products where Koch Bros Industries has a vested interest. This means no more clothes with lycra and no more Dixie products. I have not bought Georgia Pacific products for some time. I wish I knew in which gasoline products Koch Bros is invested. I am thoroughly disgusted by their pumping money into things that hurt working Americans. My mother became a union organizer in her late 40s, early 50s when she had to go to work following my father's death. She recognized unfair treatment when she saw it and I fear we are returning to those days.
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Back to Liberty
Reply #178 on : Wed April 27, 2011, 19:03:45
The crime lies in your filthy inhuman politicians who are willing to sell you and God's earth out. Anyone who is involved in as much as the Koch brothers is bound to pollute, but perhaps the benefits outweigh the tribulations. We damn near killed all the indians too, but that arose out of politics. We're starving for energy because of politics, and that makes all things increase. If we want to destroy someone for crimes or mistakes then there would probably be no one here. As long as your faux leaders are permitted to commit treason on levels of humanity, ecology and nationally, and not support punishments for bribery (lobbying), you'll have this destructive corruption. Imprison the politicians and you'll see people like the Koch brothers, if accusations are true, fall in line. Leaders should always be held accountable on a much higher standard.
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@Lawrence
Reply #177 on : Tue April 26, 2011, 12:23:28
Lawrence says "To tax them more is just giving more money to other greedy rich people" but he is wrong...to tax them more is to make them acknowledge that the Billions they earn are a result of the work of their people and a direct result of the benefits of living in this great country...taxing them more would offset the great damage they do to our environment and our health and help fund programs that hold them accountible... i.e. protect the environment and people's health. Everyone knows there is waste in government - but I am thankful for the programs that protect our sick, provide for our elderly and disabled, make sure our water is safe to drink, our food is safe to eat, our infrastructure is sound, protects our safety, provides eduction, laws, courts, firefighters, police and the many other unnamed and unappreciated tax-payer funded government BENEFITS. I think it is patriotic to pay taxes. It's also patriotic to point out waste or bad policies - that is a democracy. People like the Koch brothers think our democracy is for sale to the highest bidder! Our founding fathers knew and spoke of the dangers of too much wealth in the hand of the few - they recognized this as the greatest threat to our democracy and we should too!
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Without Koch...
Reply #176 on : Tue April 26, 2011, 12:06:52
We would survive because someone else could make those same products without illegally dumping poisons in our waters and destroying our air - all the while spending millions to influence our elections and destroy the EPA that holds them accountable! They are not a "God" that we must depend on as S. Koch seems to imply.
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Response to S. Koch
Reply #175 on : Tue April 26, 2011, 12:02:49
There isn't anything wrong with Koch making products and selling them for profit - but they shouldn't harm the environment in the process and use those profits to influene our elections! They are trying to buy our democracy right out from under us!
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Great News & reporting....
Reply #174 on : Tue April 26, 2011, 11:46:32
thanks!
Our Family will stop purchasing any GP products today and get the word out-we the little guys fuel (sweat off our brow) these barons. Funny as lots of stuff on the list is in our cabinet right now-shame on us-thanks for the word-
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Re: Koch Brothers Products and Pollution
Reply #173 on : Mon April 25, 2011, 06:13:00
Without people like the Koch brothers, you'll walk or take a horse. No soap to wash or paper to wipe. Sickness moves in, but you won't have medicine to combat it. You won't have amber waves of grain. There goes the horse. You'll have a bacteria laden rag to wipe up small messes, and no way to clean water and air. No army, navy, air force, police, personal protection, and you'll cook your food over wood. A party of carcinogens. You'll mostly go naked. You'll smell like a sewer, especially without the deoderants, perfumes and feminine napkins, along with the regular napkins. No lighting. Reduced to the even more licentious Dark Ages, but perhaps with much less sex.
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Koch bros.
Reply #172 on : Sun April 24, 2011, 10:54:42
we need to stop buying their products and let them leave the US. If it was that simple. They are criminals with money and thats that . fines don't do a thing to punish or prevent further violations to our land and people. They should be jailed along with the Bush Gang.
MM
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Koch terrorustd
Reply #171 on : Fri April 22, 2011, 14:42:23
These brothers should be listed as terrorists-intent on the destruction of the planet in order to increase their profits. Libertarians want the liberty to destroy others? And the planet on which they live? And to get away with breaking a myriad of federal laws? Oh, I forgot. Laws should not have been made which restrict their freedom to self-profit!
PIIGS!!!
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boycott
Reply #170 on : Thu April 21, 2011, 20:27:27
I've been saying this over and over again. We need to buy local products. I shop at Meijer, a store that is based in Grand Rapids, MI, for my paper towels and t.p., etc. I buy the store brand, but who knows where that comes from. I try. I buy mostly fresh, local produce when I can, local milk and eggs. Bob's Red Mill flours and grains, and I shop at thrift stores for most of my shoes and clothes. Even then, I have a hard time buying anything nowadays that is made in China. I am trying to be a conscientious consumer, but I'm not a saint. I wish more of my friends would join me though.
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Koch election pack given to their employees.
Reply #169 on : Thu April 21, 2011, 16:12:29
http://www.thenation.com/article/160064/koch-industries-2010-election-packet
lyric
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Koch boycot
Reply #168 on : Thu April 21, 2011, 11:03:14
They have their greedy fingers into just about everything. They have a destructive impact on the environment with their enormous political control. If enough of us flex our economic muscle by not purchasing their products, maybe we can defeat them.
Linda Stalling
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Koch Ind.
Reply #167 on : Wed April 20, 2011, 13:52:50
We should unionize Koch employee's world wide and collective bargain with them.
Talyseon
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Boycott Angel Soft.
Reply #166 on : Tue April 19, 2011, 14:19:19
Take direct action; read my review of Angel Soft Bathroom Tissue: http://bit.ly/hD0Z8J
Paul
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Interesting Fact
Reply #165 on : Tue April 19, 2011, 12:25:06
The Koch Family got its start building power plants and infrastructure for Joseph Stalin. Funny how they now claim they are capitalists when that family has dedicated its existence to destroying progress and mankind.

The Koch Brothers are enemies of the people and need to be treated as such.
noreen delsanno
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Koch brothers
Reply #164 on : Mon April 18, 2011, 20:11:42
I refuse to buy anything from these blood suckers.
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